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Pro's and Con's List from Community Meetings

Master List from Community Meetings

February 25, 2013

Pro’s and Con’s Master List

Here is the unedited list of pro's and con's that were collected at the three community meetings held Feb. 11,12,13. If you have questions or your input was left off the list please contact me at dkohlman@usd115.org or 336-6101. 

 

Option #1

All 6th--‐8thGraders @ B&B Facility, 9--‐12 @ Seneca, PreK--‐5 @ Seneca

 

Pros:

  • Keeps options open for future area consolidations
  • Best serves larger number of 115 students
  • Maintains a presence in the area
  • Maintaining of facility is more cost effective than the building of a new one
  • Better segregation between middle school/high school students
  • More variety of classes
  • More prepared to make a career choice
  • Chg would be finished
  • Could operate an already paid for building
  • If enrollment increases have opportunity to accommodate increased enrollments
  • Allow more growth
  • B&B being used
  • Having a building on the west side of district (identity)
  • More class options
  • Growth process for kids (middle school identity)
  • Change would be done B&B need to be able to move on
  • Keeping more jobs
  • Give and take on both sides
  • Opening growth for neighboring schools
  • Gain students vs. going to SPPS
  • Option for neighboring district
  • Early childhood ed. potential growth
  • New transportation cost would be covered by additional FTE weighting from State
    • More room
    • More likely to pass bond issue in future
    • Transportation paid for by state
    • Students able to take funded tech classes earlier
    • Facility still being used
    • Decreased time for after school activities
    • Allows room for growth
    • Separating junior high from high school
    • Room for growth
    • Transportation makes $ for district
    • More room for early childhood education
    • All sports events could begin practice at dismissal
    • Save teachers’ jobs
    • Explorative curriculum
    • Utilize the facilities
    • More class choices for Junior High
    • Room for growth
    • More gyms for Junior High to practice in
    • More likely to change mascot and colors
    • With Common Core, more classes for college readiness and careers
    • PLC is HUGE for teachers creating best learning environment for students
    • 8th grade girls away from 12th grade boys (safer environment)
    • No driving
    • More room for early education programs
    • Junior High could practice during day and cut activity bus
    • High School could work with young kids
    • Gives Junior High kids a chance to mature – crucial for development
    • Nemaha Valley has to give in consolidation process.
  • West Side of the district would have the middle school and the Highland Programs would also be on the west side
  • Jr. High would have their own school and not be exposed HS situations as early
  • 2 gyms for Jr. High use and football field
  • All high school kids home earlier from sports practices
  • Potentially more programming if we keep current staff levels
  • Provide more space; Example:  administrative offices at school and early childhood services  (could cut adm position, and save teaching positions)
  • Proper age level exposure
  • Building at Baileyville is paid for
  • (2) Potential growth from closure of very close neighboring schools
  • Would still be able to use building for community events
  • Would be able to have practice during the day
  • Have a building on B&B’s side of the district
  • Will keep more staff
  • Provides buildings for future consolidation
  • Opportunities to teach kids (i.e., early childhood, HCC, daycare, etc..)
  • Potential gain of students
  • Effective opportunities to meet needs of middle school students

 

 

Cons:

  • Less high school sports participation
  • Lose High School immediately
  • Declining enrollment issues
  • Lose Highland’s interest in purchasing facilities right away
  • Possibility of losing students
  • Tough adjustment for upper classmen
  • Cost
  • Travel
  • Losing students
  • Paying on building students don’t go to
  • Limits student opportunity to be involvement
  • Most expensive option
  • Loss of HCC as a buyer
  • What/where would students go/do between school and games
  • Cost of updating bldg..
    • Expense
    • Travel time increase
    • Length of time until option 1 is not viable
    • Paying on bond for building not be used by old 442 patrons for 3 years
    • Loss of students to other schools
    • Emergency services here
    • Shared building with Highland
    • Transportation
    • Renovation costs
    • Supervision of middle school kids waiting for buses
    • Staff switching buildings
    • Cost of running 3 buildings
    • Administrative salaries
    • SPPS couldn’t participate in band
    • Paying taxes for a building ones own kids don’t attend
    • Loss of student
    • Bigger classes (less 1 on 1 time)
    • More traveling (by student and teachers)
  • Increase in the number of miles students are being transported
  • Will NVJH parents be willing to send kids to Baileyville?
  • Administrator cost for Jr building
  • Would not save money if kept current staffing levels to increase programming
  • Classroom size at B&B
  • No high school at B&B
  • More Expensive
  • Emergency care within the community
  • Education time lost for bussing

 

 

 

Option #2

Close B&B Facility w/students attending facilities in Seneca

 

Pros:

  • Fresh Start

                        All new mascots, name, colors from get go

(if not have been decide @ prelim consolidation mtgs. We wouldn’t have consolidated)

 

  • To open a chance for Highland-lease facilities
  • More of a class selection
  • Centrally located
  • State of facility
  • Finances
  • HCC
  • Easier to change colors/mascots
  • Come to resolution/finality
  • HCC could bring possibility for new businesses
    • Save money
    • College classes
    • SPPS continued use of band and SPED classes
    • Avoid fiscal cliff
    • Building in B&B used by HCC could bring in money
    • Create unity with communities
    • Save money
    • NVEMS was build to accommodate future growth
    • Saving in reduction of building costs, staff
    • Highland
    • Emergency services in Seneca
    • Cost Savings
    • Highland’s presence – technology center
    • Our students have HCC opportunities for highland classes in close proximity
  • If you are going to close the building, do it now and not gradually
  • Highland CC-great opportunity for students
  • Savings in one less building
  • More likely to change colors and mascot
  • Central Location
  • Overall cost

 

 

 

 

Cons:

  • If close facilities then have growth increase there’s potential for a new facility cost

(due to Axtell, 380, or own district or any reason, # of reason for needing facilities)

  • Building not used would affect towns and growth
  • Big schools, pupils = not as much 1 on 1 or individual attention nor will people know each other as well
  • Large school numbers = not as many opportunities in athletics, extra-curricular activities (Scholar’s Bowl, plays, drama, etc.…)
  • Adjustments for high schools (is a concern from current h.s. students)
  • Teaching styles between schools can be different/affect student learning
  • Short-term over crowding
  • Increased transportation costs
  • Loss of higher achieving students due to increased sizes of classes
  • Area school closings/consolidation changes would be lost if closed
  • More job losses
  • HCC option doesn’t work out due to funding cuts or lower enrollment
  • Loss of students
  • Space
  • Class size
  • Room for Special Ed
  • Welcoming environment
  • If in 2013 no time to adjust
  • HCC brings about new/more people to Baileyville, increase traffic
  • Lack of future options
  • Some cost to reclaim classrooms at NVHS
  • Finality
  • 1-sided facility (location)
  • Less 1 on 1 time w/ teachers
  • B&B giving up a lot
  • Loss of jobs
  • Student travel
    • Loss of more staff
    • Loss of students due to travel distance
    • Higher student:teacher ratio
    • 4A classifcation
    • No dates given
    • Not honoring the 4 years we were promised
    • Possible increase of bullying
    • No facility in B&B
    • No room for growth
    • Loss of students
    • Beliefs will change
    • Extra curricular (after school practices) will take longer
    • Possible loss of teachers
    • Will be 4A in sports
    • Hard to pass bond for buildings
    • Lack of give/take feeling
    • Led to believe we had 2 more years
    • Are there enough classrooms and is there enough classroom space?
    • Possible loss of students to other schools
    • Larger classes
    • Lose teachers
    • Junior High should be separate from high school
    • Wasting a wonderful facility
    • No room for growth
    • Less likely to change mascot and colors
    • Less 1 on 1 time
    • Less opportunities for participating in extra activities
    • “Non-welcoming environment”
    • HCC could attract undesirable clients / students
  • Possible offend patrons with the rapid harshness of the closing
  • HCC could be done in other locations
  • Overload for the 1st year
  • Loss of staff
  • Potential loss of enrollment
  • Less opportunities and less space available
  • West side of district would be impacted economically with the closing of the school
  • Major expense to change color and mascots
  • Class sizes
  • Kids not wanting to participate in sports because they will not get to play
  • Lose more families than if we wait
  • Loss of community resource for B&B
  • Crowded facilities, is this the most effective teaching will we be teaching to the middle?
  • Opportunities for Early Childhood Growth
  • Hard feelings on west side of district
  • (2) Would lose students-Bern Example
  • Potential higher taxes for future expansion
  • Jr. High wouldn’t have a chance to have own identity as a 6,7,8
  • New set of students have to travel
  • Definite loss of students
  • Changing to class 4A in sports, meaning more travel

 

Option #3

Transition over time with JH closing followed by HS

 

Pros:

  • HCC could use the bldg..
  • Allows more time to adjust
  • Avoid overcrowding with current student numbers
  • Will lose fewer students to other districts
  • Keeps B&B bldg. available for future options
  • Use office space at B&B vs. lease in Seneca
  • If take JH first- allows fSH more time at B&B
  • Longer time to adjust to change with fewer Surprises to patrons and students
  • Buy more time to see if funding/enrollment options increase to allow both schools to operate
  • Allow staffing opportunity to plan retirement/pursue other job opportunities
  • Affects Fewer students
  • Allows the larger classes to pass to high school level to prevent overcrowding
  • Maintain B&B enrollment for a longer period of time
  • Reduces overcrowding for awhile
    • For current high school students only:
    • -Better education at B & B
    • -Better chance of involvement
    • -Safer environment
    • Keeping the high school longer
    • Allows time to stay open for state funding
    • Allows time for all students to adjust and transition
    • Gives district time to make decisions and prepare (mascot, colors, and staff)
    • NV could stay 3A
    • Money saved with 2 buildings vs. 3 buildings (cost of upkeep)
    • Time for more decisions
    • Free college tuition provide for awhile (HCC)
    • Training for community members (HCC)
    • Save cost of teachers and administration due to cutting employees
    • Allows more students to graduate from B&B
    • Helps keep peace by taking more time
    • Less dramatic
    • HCC tech center
    • Less cost to district later
    • More time to prepare for future
    • Lets current students finish out the years stated in gentlemen’s agreement
    • Could attract Axtell kids if they were to close soon
  • Gives B&B and NV more time
  • Less hard feelings on the west side of the district
  • Additional time would allow for more to be known about HCC options
  • Allows enrollment numbers to decline. 
  • Less facility space concerns
  • Save on transportation over time
  • Easier transition for B&B (more gradual)
  • Less loss of students than option #2
  • Savings
  • Give time to think of other uses for the building

 

Cons:

  • HCC Could use the bldg.
  • Drag out final decision
  • Limit KinderPrep options
  • Cost more to keep all bldgs.. open
  • B&B closing
  • Hard feelings on West side of district
  • Loss of kids due to no B&B facility
  • Loss of jobs
  • Overcrowding
  • Risk of no buyer for bldg..
  • Cost of only running HS at B&B
  • Slow death to B&B Schools
  • Potential for more animosity
  • B&B facility faces extinction/disappearance
  • Property values will decrease due to unused building
  • Increased maintenance expenses
  • Potential loss of students/tax base
  • Will Highland wait for transition to follow 4 year period
  • Changes community dynamics
  • Student travel
    • Big Factor- HCC potential/ or loss
  • How do we retain teachers if they know the school is closing?
  • No room for growth
  • We do not save money if we have to add to NV building over time
  • Slow Death
  • Community loses a school
  • Potential loss of patrons
  • Less likely to change mascot and colors
  • Cut teachers
  • Lose students
  • No dates set
  • Less electives due to lack of staff
  • Slow, painful death
  • Retaining teachers?
  • Vacant building w/o HCC use
  • Uncertainty of closing date
  • B&B’s building closes in the end
  • More crowded facility in the end
  • More students leaving the district
  • No guarantee of mascot and color change
  • Less one on one time because of more students
  • Less athletic opportunities
  • (2) If we phase out we’re finished
  • If government cuts funding to HCC and HCC owns our building it will sit empty
  • We will be absorbed
  • Splits families with multiple children between schools
  • B&B patron concerns that with gradual closure there be no mascot or color change
  • Would closing gradual cause HCC to find another building and B&B building would be empty in the future?

 

 

 

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